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to be walking away from the negotiations that we've been engaged in here at the white house for a big deficit reduction and debt reduction package. we were offering a deal that caused for as much discretionary savings as the gang of six. we were calling for taxes that were less than what the gang of six had proposed. and we had -- we were calling for modifications to entitlement programs. this was an extraordinarily fair deal. if it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue. nancy pelosi, harry reid, the democratic leadership, they sure did not like the plan that we were proposing to boehnor, but they were at least willing to engage in a conversation because they understood how important it is for us to actually solve this problem. and so far, i have not seen the capacity of the house republicans in particular to make those tough decisions. what a lot of the american people are so disappointed by is this sense that all the talk about responsibility, all the talk about the next generation, all the talk about making sacrifices, that when it comes to actually doing
hike. >> i disagree with that. >> you're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. the public support balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not one sctd sector 0 a limited number of sectors from the society. >> last night it was said, voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't v
. if you do nothing, you have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> h
in charge say regardless of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2 deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoman
this thing? this big cut, cap and balance has nothing in it. i had a hunch it wouldn't be in there. i did something that nobody is doing in your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? >> senator coburj introduced a plan -- >> it's not the coburn plan. it's the bumper sticker. >> the house has a plan. >> why do you keep saying this? >> chris, chris -- >> have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know there's something in there -- i'm reading it right now and -- >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. it's vapor, there is no plan, because there's no leadership. >> todd, the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts over the -- >> there is no plan. >> that was a hostage video, and he is being held hostage by the tea party republicans. >>> let's go to the outlet pass as they say in football. president clinton has weighed in. he writes, quote, clinton says he would invoke the so-called constitutional option to raise the nation's debt ceiling, quote, without hesitation and force the courts to s
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
the battle on a short term debt ceiling because we can't put together a big one in one week's time. and you noticed the president had no statement in there, "i will veto a short-term debt ceiling." what happened to that? >> he didn't have that. i was wondering if you would allow if you ear in the president's position or advisor, you advised many presidents before. would you not tell him to stand up to his opponents? >> i would not tell the president of the united states to veto a short term debt ceiling. if, as a result, i'm going to throw my country into default over what? the president is willing to accept a clean debt ceiling with nothing. now boehner is going to give a debt ceiling with $1 trillion in cuts. why would he reject the good because it's not the best? >> my advice -- i think, pat, we've had this discussion on the show. pat and i sparred a bit in the last two weeks. i think pat, unfortunately, for the democrats standpoint is right. i don't mean you're right. you're more right this morning than wrong. if the president has to accept a short term plan which is looking more and mo
congress in high esteem. >> we as the new majority in the house. >> failing on the big things is something they choose to do. >> we implore them. murdoch is also note blame. >> insisting that he is not to blame. >> london calling. >> tried to pass the buck. >> he doesn't stack up. >> the 80-year-old appeared confused. >> here said yes, i'm in charge. >> someone tried to get i believe to rupert murdoch. >> a man with a shaving cream pie leaps past her husband and attempted to smash rupert murdoch in the face. >> that are looks like a spice. >> can you say it was glitter. >> as the deadline for raising the debt ceiling grows closer, house republicans chose to spend this day in debate and on a floor vote on a bill that the president has promised to veto if it somehow miraculously passed the senate, which it won't. republicans are not calling it the cut cap and balance bill because it drastically cuts spending and caps future spending and would guarantee future balanced guj et through a balanced amendment to the constitution. that would require a $2/3 majority. it was a debate over a bill that
different checks. for everything from big ticket items like social security, veterans benefits, and nondefense contracts, to smaller payouts, to folks who are, for example, victims of black lung disease, or people who are railroad retirement board pensioneers. it's 80 million checks every single month. and, again, only about half the money they'll need to make good on all of those payments. so what does treasury do? who gets paid? who doesn't? the bipartisan policy center has laid out a possible scenario in which the treasury department only pays the following bills in august. interest on our debts, social security benefits, medicare and medicaid, defense contracts, and unemployment benefits. just paying those bills, just those, not everything we owe, just those, brings us to about $172 billion. which if you'll remember is all the money that they will have on hand. if only those programs get paid, here, my friends, is what doesn't get paid. military pay for active duty soldiers, veterans affairs programs, salary and benefit for federal employees, department of education, food s
, as republicans, as the new majority in this house. >> failing on the big things is something they choose to do. >> we emplore the other side to get serious. >> when is the house going to stop the charade? >> the gang of six is still trying to lead. >> it's a far cry from the paul ryan budget. >> we thought this was the gang of six, dead and buried. >> now the gang of six is a gang of seven. >> two parts, there's always a second act. >> gotten rave reviews from a lot of folks. frlgs colleagues really liked it. >> when does somebody have to say uncle? >> murdoch is also not taking the blame. >> insisting that he is not to blame. >> london calling. >> tried to pass the buck today. >> just doesn't really stack up. >> the 80-year-old also appeared confused. >> he said yes, i'm in charge of this company. >> somebody jumped over to, i believe, get to rupert murdoch. >> somebody with a pie, wendi murdoch leaped past her husband. >> she's feisty, i've met her. >> if i remember correctly, that looks like a spike. >> you can always say with glitter. >> as the deadline for raising the debt ceiling grows c
with political philosophy in the house. as the debt line approaches and house republicans are going to have a big choice -- they picked this fight with the president for a reason, the debt limit is not going to be raised unless we do something on the deficit projections now and in to the future. but the problem with the house republicans is, they never answered affirmatively in a politically sa political politically saliable way what the a the answer should be. you have to have a plan that can pass both chambers and the president can sign. otherwise, you're talking past the other party. >> the question is, nicole, what is republican position right now? at the end of last week, we had republican leaders on in the house, guys i like very much personally. been a champion of paul ryan. back from the time i met him, in 1994. but we ask, what do you want? and their position was, it's not enough to close the tax loopholes. we've got to cut tax rates, income tax rates for individuals and corporations. that's not going to happen in 2011. they know it's not going to happen. i say, okay, let's say you got t
and boehner plans, the big difference is the boehner plan forces us to raise the debç ceiling again and forces us to accept a $1.8 trillion or more in cuts from the so-called super commission, and if we don't do it, we go through another crises. he also demands a vote on the budget amendment. i think you could get something more rational to incentivize another plan down the road and have something with enough pressure coming from the markets, both parties could vote for. >> you make it sound like if reasonable people had a conversation about this there might actually be a solution, so thanks for being on and talking with us today. >> glad to be here. >> that was ezra klein, columnist for "the washington post" and bloomberg and also an msnbc policy analyst. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now, ask yourself, would you -- no, not you, nancy. would you want john boehner's job right now, trying to placate a gaggle of angry tea partiers and stave off an economic calamity at the same time? i suspect there are moments even he doesn't want this job, but he's got it, and we need john boehner to get bet
is the big bad government is a threat to us. the consumer protection bureau as most americans understand is the government protecting them from abuse by private financial institutions. and they are terrified that the public will see that there is value to a public institution that can prevent them from being abused by private institutions because it undercuts the whole rationale that the government is always bad, always a problem. and that's why we are fighting so hard for it. >> congressman barney frank, democrat of massachusetts, ranking democrat on the financial committee. thank you for your time tonight. >>> texas governor, and gonna run for president guy, rick perry made a very surprising decision today that is going to upset some of his most ardent supporters. i'll tell you about it with a smile when i come back. k of pos. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of
care a lot about. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual point. linking, lifting the debt ceiling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spending to match a debt ceiling increase and a trigger mechanism for a balanced budget amendment. holding out ideologically. speaker boehner when asked about the reid plan earlier. let's listen. >> i believe that the plan is full of gimmicks. we're not making any real changes in the spending structure of our government, and it doesn't deal with the biggest drivers of our deficit and our debt, and that would be entitlement programs. >> the republicans-- >> they're not touching that either. putting it to the side now. >> how can he say that, then? >> they have forgotten the number one rule of hostagetaking. when the other sides gives into your demands you let the hostage go. i don't think they're interested in doing that. at least 100 members on the house republican side want to blow up the economy because they think they will save the economy. >> and they're certainly wil
committed to a big deficit reduction package because he was always going to include something that was impossible for house republicans? >> but that was -- this is where i bang head on table, right? because i am -- i'm basically a right wing person and if i can get a deal where you preserve the infrastructure of tax rates, you give up something on deductions, schedules, and credits, and you get a democratic president to say i'll go first on medicare, i'll squeeze the providers, or i will make some changes on social security, it won't work when george w. bush leads, but when a democrat leads, okay, but you have to agree in this 1 in 6, 1 in 7 thing that you don't like. i say let's explore. and the president on health care and now again on this debt ceiling, as you say, he may have been very insincere and counting on republican intransigence to save him from his words, but the words were said, the door was there. this could be the moment where republicans got a lot out of a president who asked only a little from them, overconfident they'd say know. we now see he's rightly confid
really big adult moment for the new republican majority and for people who've never been in politics, it's going to be one of those grows moments. it's going to be difficult. i'm certainly well aware of that, but we'll have to find a way to help educate members and help people understand the serious problem that would exist if we didn't do it." john boehner has worked harder and done more than any other republican in the house to, as he put it, educate members and help people understand the serious problem that would exist if we didn't do it. but john boehner's best has not been good enough. he has been elected to the speakership with the votes of economically uneducatable tea party republicans who have no ability to comprehend the seriousness and the necessity of raising the debt ceiling, and so tonight in what john boehner was hoping would be the tea party's "first really adult moment," john boehner has been forced to bring a bill to a vote that he knows is the work of the children in his party, the political peter pans who still, with the united states of america careening towards def
>>> well, the big story today, the real debt debate. good afternoon to you. happy monday to you. i'm name dylan ratigan and we have a major lineup for you today combining the powers of msnbc, the newly revamped dylanratigan.com and the huffington post to bring you a real conversation a way from the washington talking points. in the show today -- a d.r. exclusive with one of the true conservatives in this nation that i respect. senator tom coburn on the whys and hows behind higs new plan to save $9 trillion and more importantly seek to establish true confidence in america's political and economic problem-solving systems. also today a look at the real dheel would replace the taxes and austerity debate with tree structuring versus taxes and austerity as it may be the only solution that could not only save america but the world from long-term financial ruin. but it's a debate neither president obama nor republican leadership wants to touch. >>> before we step away, though, for senator coburn, let's look at what the rest of the lawmakers are doing, calling it the congressional two-step.
ceiling, we can get through default, it won't be a big deal. now, john boehner doesn't believe that, mitch mcconnell doesn't believe that, but boehnor seems unable to move toward any kind of agreement, partly because he's worried about his own fate in this caucus or he's worried that if he puts together a deal that is supported by too many democrats and not enough republicans, he's also threatened. so i think it's that internal politics in the republican caucus that's blocking this. i think what might happen is that mitch mcconnell may decide to let harry reid pass his plan without threatening a filibuster. now, if he did that, the democrats could get it through with a majority. that's how most democracies do things, but not our senate, and that may set up grounds for a solution. that's about the only thing i could see right now that might begin to get us out of this or at least begin real negotiations again. >> so, speaking of that, of the idea there is, in fact, a majority rule, and that there's so much politics going on here, look, we saw this reuters poll indicating a majority of voter
at here, is there this broader pattern, if so, then this could become part of that. >> and big surprise, a very, very sharp contradiction in james murdoch's testimony plays out today. and the murdoch response was basically no response at all. >> right. you know, the interesting character to watch there is tom crone, the lawyer. he's made clear that he's not going to be the fall guy here. and if they -- if the murdochs and news corp. try to lay everything on him, because he was the chief lawyer for "news of the world," he's not going to sit idly by. so if the brits are looking for a john dean character in all this, i would think that tom crone is the guy to watch, and the statement today contradicting james murdoch's testimony about that email is the first sign that he may in fact be willing to go there. >> nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. thank you for joining me tonight, michael. >> thank you, lawrence. >>> coming up, virginia governor bob mcdonald flip flops on the debt ceiling, even though he never actually understood what the debt ceiling was in the fir
to go with big spending cuts in revenues. makes no sense. >> i think the president, i said earlier, has leverage at this point because republicans depicted themselves as hostage-takers ready to blow things up and the public doesn't like this. they stood their ground. pat's right about that. the tea party people would be happy to see $100 billion cut out of the next budget which is in the bill that's up this week, even if that leads tos 700,000 lost jobs. happy top do safety inspections, environmental protection. this is what they want to do and stand by -- >> let's get back to reality. back to reality -- >> no. this is the reality, pat. >> david, what about -- >> david, hold on. let pat make his case. >> let me ask you this, chris. the republicans, say the mcconnell plan has a trillion or a trillion and a half in budget cuts in it. >> i don't think it does. >> in the house it passes. they send it to the president. he's going to veto it, shut down the government and puts if default? come on. >> the whole idea, mcconnell's, separate cuts from spending -- separate the ideological war faire
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